14:29:57 [MissParker] anyway, we should try and discuss something....what's your knowledge of the current goings on...?

14:30:03 [MissParker] with GGL or otherwise?

14:30:36 [gretnatree] What will we being talking about?

14:31:20 [MissParker] well, usually we discuss the GGL and other campaign activities...

14:31:48 [gretnatree] ok

14:31:48 [MissParker] I'll do an update for you guys first...

14:32:04 [MissParker] The GGL Sims need to be restarted because they both got lost somewhere between Africa and Portugal...

14:32:12 [CJnPez] hey gretnatree!!! sorry... i'm usually more polite than this... i'm afraid i'm a Potterholic.

14:32:52 [CJnPez] yay! 15.

14:33:15 [CJnPez] (if i can use all my remaining time left, i've got 40..)

14:33:17 [gretnatree] Who isnt a Potterholic?

14:33:31 [CJnPez] What about the Letter itself?

14:33:33 [CJnPez] LOLLL

14:33:41 [MissParker] Right...so....anyway....potterholics aside...we have to send out a new Sim to Portugal and see how it fares from there....and also I think we can send one to South Africa, again....

14:33:45 [CJnPez] No, you don't understand... I'm a REAL Potterholic...

14:34:04 [MissParker] the letter itself won't be sent til we can figure out what to do about the path between SA and Portugal...

14:34:08 [CJnPez] LOLLLLL *sheepish* sorry, Anto... just apologizing to gretnatree for my rudeness..

14:34:19 [MissParker] lol

14:34:27 [MissParker] i know Sabs...don't worry!

14:34:34 [CJnPez] I thought it had STARTED getting sent... i got 1 sim, and the real one.

14:34:47 [MissParker] It's ok...I'd rather have a potterholic than be in the chat room alone!

14:34:55 [MissParker] Sim 1 you got...but not the real thing...

14:34:56 [CJnPez] *whispers to gretnatree* pssst... hey, G!

14:35:01 [CJnPez] LOL

14:35:03 [MissParker] that was never ordered!

14:35:08 [CJnPez] i got TWO things..

14:35:23 [MissParker] What were the two things...?

14:35:28 [MissParker] what size and wa

14:35:34 [MissParker] what texture?

14:35:36 [MissParker]

14:35:37 [CJnPez] *furrows eyebrows* are you SURE? (not that i'm calling you a liar, mind you...)

14:35:45 [MissParker] one was a page about 8x14

14:35:48 [MissParker] right?

14:35:52 [MissParker] LOL

14:35:59 [gretnatree] Oh, I'm here really

14:36:01 [CJnPez] the Sim we started here in the U.S., then....

14:36:08 [MissParker] I'd know if the real thing was ordered...I have to pay for it!

14:36:18 [gretnatree] Texture.. of the letter ?

14:36:42 [MissParker] yeah...that question was for Sabs...meaning: paper or board?

14:36:43 [CJnPez] Well, the 2nd Sim started in another country, didn't it? and it hadn't made it to the U.S. yet.

14:36:44 [MissParker] lol

14:36:51 [CJnPez] both were paper...

14:36:53 [MissParker] i know it sounds weird right gretna!?

14:37:03 [CJnPez] but i got two. honestly...

14:37:18 [MissParker] yes, that's true Sabs...which is why I am wondering about the texture of the other thing you got!

14:37:26 [MissParker] so...describe the other one!

14:37:30 [MissParker] please!

14:37:34 [MissParker]

14:37:40 [gretnatree] Does the texture matter because of weight?

14:37:40 [CJnPez] I BELIEVE both were paper...

14:37:45 [MissParker] and size!

14:37:50 [MissParker] ok...

14:38:09 [MissParker] yeah that's sorta correct gretna

14:38:14 [CJnPez] ok, i KNOW the first one i got was the 1st Sim...

14:38:20 [CJnPez] i got it from that hawaii guy...

14:38:21 [MissParker] OK....listen carefully!

14:38:33 [CJnPez] the second one, i think it was just a little bit bigger, but still paper.

14:38:34 [MissParker] The real GGL is not paper!

14:38:40 [CJnPez] ... *listening*

14:38:42 [MissParker]

14:38:52 [MissParker] Ergo you did not receive the real GGL....YET!

14:38:55 [CJnPez] then... we've got 3 sims in the works?

14:39:03 [MissParker] not that I am shouting...just being emphatic!

14:39:03 [gretnatree] I'm listening

14:39:04 [CJnPez] weird...

14:39:08 [MissParker] lol

14:39:09 [CJnPez] lol

14:39:16 [CJnPez] typical anot, gret!

14:39:27 [CJnPez] oops... typo. *anto

14:39:33 [MissParker] I think the other thing you would have gotten would be a signature page for you to get others to sign and send back to Melissa....

14:39:46 [MissParker] perhaps during the first Giant Letter project

14:40:01 [MissParker] or during the Sim...either way...if it was paper it was not the real GGL.

14:40:07 [MissParker]

14:40:12 [MissParker] yes typical me!

14:40:13 [CJnPez] maybe...

14:40:21 [CJnPez] YYYYEAHH!!! THAT was it.

14:40:34 [CJnPez] ........ i think.

14:40:37 [MissParker] Right! the Sim 1 looks just like the sig page...not much difference between them

14:40:40 [MissParker]

14:40:48 [MissParker] yeah...we'll go with that!

14:40:50 [MissParker] LOL

14:40:55 [CJnPez] yeah, they were pretty similar..

14:41:04 [MissParker] anyway, i have to ask you two your opinions....

14:41:10 [CJnPez] i don't remember if i sent it directly back to melissa, though..

14:41:18 [CJnPez] shoot. *dodges in case of bullet*

14:41:30 [gretnatree] ask away..

14:41:36 [MissParker] mattali thinks we should forego sending the real GGL around the world...and just get everyone to print and sign GGL sig pages to send to Melissa

14:41:40 [MissParker] what do you think?

14:41:44 [MissParker] brb

14:42:19 [gretnatree] Sounds good to me

14:42:29 [MissParker] ok back

14:42:46 [gretnatree] Alot less work

14:42:47 [MissParker] she's afraid of it getting lost...which i can relate to....

14:42:51 [CJnPez] yup

14:42:57 [CJnPez] definitely.

14:42:58 [MissParker] yes it is a lot less work too....

14:43:03 [gretnatree] I can understand that

14:43:44 [MissParker] and she says we can always put the stamps in from the different countries...

14:43:44 [gretnatree] How would we get sigs from everyone?

14:44:07 [MissParker] we'll have to get them to mail a signature page to Melissa

14:44:36 [gretnatree] Can we send them via email and the like?

14:45:08 [MissParker] each person can collect signatures on a signature page...I prefer snail mail...but if you absolutely cannot do anything else then it will have to be email...

14:45:10 [gretnatree] Who with mail Melissa a sig page?

14:45:48 [MissParker] each person....in a different country/state in the US

14:45:50 [gretnatree] snail mail sounds good to me..

14:45:59 [CJnPez] good idea on the stamp front.

14:46:05 [CJnPez] (er, warning... 2 min)

14:46:05 [gretnatree] OK

14:46:56 [CJnPez] if i get back, cool. but if i don't.... then i like the idea.

14:47:01 [CJnPez] i think we should do it.

14:47:11 [MissParker] ok

14:47:17 [gretnatree] bbye CJ!

14:47:18 [CJnPez] it'd deffie be faster than the GGL.

14:47:29 [CJnPez] we can still put it together to bel ike the GGL

14:47:30 [MissParker] you're right Sabs

14:47:31 [CJnPez] bye

14:47:36 [MissParker] that's a plus

14:47:39 [MissParker] bye!

14:47:50 [MissParker] *hugs* for the road!

14:47:58 [gretnatree] When do you want to start this new idea?

14:48:10 [MissParker] I think we can start asap

14:48:22 [MissParker] as in ...as soon as we get everyone else to sign off on it...

14:48:45 [MissParker] I will post messages at Fox forum, the campaign group/forum etc

14:48:56 [MissParker] By Thurs we can set a date....

14:48:58 [gretnatree] Do you have a sig page in mind?

14:49:08 [MissParker] Thurs chat is at 4pm EST.

14:49:22 [MissParker] I think we can use the same one we used for the Sim 1...have you seen it?

14:49:54 [gretnatree] Hope to get on here on Thurs. I haven't seen Sim 1..

14:50:13 [MissParker] ok...i think i can find a link for you

14:50:23 [gretnatree] thanks!

14:50:35 [MissParker] http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/MimiBFly/ggl_v_as_sigpage.jpg

14:50:50 [MissParker] that's what it looked like before I added in the country names...

14:51:57 [MissParker] But for each person, there is no need for country names, so that is what we will probably used, as it is

14:52:41 [gretnatree] ok

14:54:05 [gretnatree] each person prints this out and sends it..

14:54:27 [MissParker] we may have to discuss how we will put the signatures onto the actual GGL...the actual size of each signature...

14:55:47 [gretnatree] I have to leave in 5..

14:56:03 [MissParker] yes, each person in one country...although I think we can have sig pages travel within the same country to get sigs from other people in the same country....

14:56:12 [MissParker] ok

14:56:20 [MissParker] me too actually!

14:56:26 [MissParker] Thanks for joining the chat!

14:56:29 [MissParker]

14:56:54 [MissParker] Hope to see you Thurs or next Tues!

14:56:59 [gretnatree] I will try to be here on Thursday. One page per country.. OK

14:57:31 [MissParker] I think that can work yes...

-- End of chat --

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20:59:32 [MissParker] Agenda will be flipped today...

20:59:38 [MissParker] Bulletins!

21:00:06 [MissParker] Anyone remembered?

21:00:09 [MissParker] I did!

21:00:17 [krisrussel] *hides*

21:00:25 [MissParker] lol

21:00:26 [krisrussel] I need a reminder for that :^/

21:00:34 [MissParker] Did you at least remember kris?

21:00:44 [MissParker] I guess not

21:00:53 [krisrussel] I remember when I wasn't at a computer :^/

21:01:08 [MissParker] I think I better set up something on the calendar at FrustratedTpFans....

21:01:14 [MissParker] lol

21:01:21 [krisrussel] good idea...

21:01:27 [MissParker] I think I better post one at Youtube...I printed mine but have not put them up yet...the month is almost over

21:01:35 [krisrussel] and put the txt for the bulletin in the reminder...

21:01:57 [MissParker] Good idea...but you know there is a download link for the document, don't you?

21:02:07 [krisrussel] I'm gonna spread some of them at the only Belgian sci-fi con in october...

21:02:44 [krisrussel] yeah I know... but by the time I find the link... I prefer things to be simple ;^)

21:03:16 [MissParker] yay kris!

21:03:23 [MissParker] ok I understand about the link

21:03:40 [MissParker] ok next up...Scifi letters...

21:03:57 [MissParker] we have a roster up for the daily email

21:04:06 [MissParker] Did everyone see that?

21:04:23 [MrZenith] I did not see anything.

21:04:34 [krisrussel] yup I saw... and put a reminder in my calender...

21:04:49 [Ruben20] Where can we see the roster?

21:04:52 [krisrussel] but I saw it too late to post it on monday... will do netx week..

21:04:53 [MissParker] Prolly because you don't get the group email Z...where should I post this so you can read it...?

21:05:01 [MissParker] ok good kris

21:05:13 [MissParker] I'll post it at Fox forum...easiest

21:05:22 [MrZenith] do that.

21:05:26 [MissParker] Ok Z?

21:05:31 [MissParker] ok!

21:05:56 [MissParker] Next...the Lost Red Notebooks project and Anniversary Challenge

21:06:27 [Ruben20] The notebook project is comprehensive

21:06:33 [MissParker] Well, that's just an update for you guys...I have to work on the instructions and the article for the challenge...

21:06:45 [krisrussel] ok

21:07:16 [MissParker] And I hope to do that soon, ...

21:07:27 [krisrussel] :^)

21:08:03 [MissParker] But be ready to do at least one for the challenge on September 19...

21:08:30 [krisrussel] ok

21:08:50 [MissParker] In fact, I'd suggest you can register your RN even before you make it...but that means you'd have to know how to do that at the bookcrossing site....have you all visited it yet?

21:09:25 [krisrussel] yup... once or twice... it's very overwhelming...

21:09:41 [MrZenith] visited, yes. done anything more, no?

21:09:47 [MrZenith] *.

21:10:12 [MissParker] lol

21:10:22 [MissParker] Try registering at least....

21:10:28 [MissParker]  pretty please!

21:11:16 [krisrussel] I'll try :^/

21:14:05 [MissParker] ok good kris!

21:14:51 [MissParker] Next up: Sims update

21:14:56 [MissParker] Any news?

21:15:16 [krisrussel] not that I know of

21:16:05 [MissParker] yeah....i just logged in...it does not seem so...

21:16:16 [MissParker] this is the longest lag isn't it...?

21:16:22 [krisrussel]

21:16:26 [krisrussel] yup

21:16:40 [MissParker] ok LJ login is all that's next and that's me...i'll login now...

21:17:04 [krisrussel] maybe we should let her/him out of the final GGL...

21:17:10 [krisrussel] ok

21:18:23 [MissParker] Well, they have not posted if they received it yet though...

21:18:39 [MissParker] SO....honour code prevails...we hope it's because of the mail....

21:18:46 [MissParker] ok login is done!

21:19:05 [krisrussel] ok, we'll wait another week than...

21:19:27 [MissParker] What should we do after that?

21:19:52 [MissParker] We didn't have a contingency for this....not really...are we to assume it's lost?

21:19:54 [krisrussel] I dunno really :^/

21:20:17 [MissParker] I know... me either..

21:20:30 [krisrussel] it's been three or four weeks

21:20:56 [MissParker] Will chat with Melissa...see if she has a suggestion...

21:21:14 [MissParker] Leanda did say the mail service was very slow....

21:21:15 [krisrussel] ok

21:21:32 [krisrussel] yeah, but this is ridiculous

21:24:17 [MissParker] it is...i'm just checking to see what she said about mail options in the survey...

21:24:43 [krisrussel] ok

21:25:02 [MissParker] the crazy thing is...it's going from South Africa to an island in Portugal, i.e. not on the mainland portugal...I think that might be the problem...

21:27:36 [krisrussel] could be...

21:28:07 [MissParker] She did say she would use a method with delivery confirmation...

21:28:31 [krisrussel] that should go a bit faster...

21:28:32 [MissParker] I will ask her to try and call her post office to see if there is a problem

21:28:39 [MissParker] And same for Allura/Sam

21:29:02 [krisrussel] ok

21:29:36 [Ruben20] I’ve been thinking: Most of the projects we suggest and start to work on, are long-term projects. The only one we’ve gotten on the way with, is the GGL-project. Other than that, we have harvested little fruit of our labour. I gotta tell you, I am starting to loose a bit of faith in those projects

21:29:39 [Ruben20] because they take too long. IMO, we should put all our efforts into –one- project – a simple, but clear and effective project.

21:30:40 [MissParker] I know what you mean Ruben...which one do you think we should put our efforts into?

21:30:55 [MissParker] Van24 is working on getting the PEZ project off the ground...

21:31:02 [MissParker] btw Ruben, today is your day....for the Scifi letter...

21:31:12 [MissParker] Any chance you can get it sent today?

21:32:58 [Ruben20] The pez-project is the one. The sci-fi letter? Sure, i can send it, but i don't know which adress.

21:34:14 [MissParker] I just posted the message at Fox forum....the address is there...

21:34:27 [MissParker] feedback@scifi.com

21:34:48 [MissParker] mattali is also sending us an extra SASE to use the snail mail Scifi address

21:34:48 [Ruben20] Okay, thanks. Will do that.

21:34:58 [MissParker] np

21:35:50 [krisrussel] oh yeah, I got my SASE... to who should I send it again??

21:36:43 [MissParker] Well, I agree it would be nice to have a project that is simple clear and effective....but some things are not so easy to obtain...e.g. the Bulletin project is simple enough...but it's effectiveness is tempered by participation...we just have to keep brainstorming I guess....

21:36:49 [MissParker] hold on kris

21:38:12 [Ruben20] The problem with the bulletin project is that it's not aimed directly at Fox, scifi or whoever. It's a project to collects fans to participate, and that's a long-term, neverending type of project. Do we have the time for that?

21:39:28 [MissParker] http://www.thepretenderfans.com/mb/index.php?topic=892.msg1413#msg1413 kris your address is here

21:39:48 [krisrussel] ok thx

21:40:26 [MissParker] It's true Ruben that it's not directed at Fox...so maybe a bad example...but I don't think we should discount it...because at the moment, active numbers of fans are what we need and this project can bring us that....if it is executed well....

21:40:29 [MissParker] yw kris

21:42:38 [krisrussel] what letter do I use again... I hate my bad memory...

21:42:59 [MissParker] lol it's ok...hold on

21:43:27 [MissParker] template: http://www.4shared.com/dir/2716786/aa7944c6/Fox_Letters.html

21:43:44 [Ruben20] Sure, it's a nice enough project to do on the side, but it would be easier for the newcomers if they only had to deal with one simple project. I don't know... we meet here twice a week, week after week, and still there aren't many signs of fruits. I don't mean to act like an ass here, but we need

21:43:48 [Ruben20] results.

21:44:12 [MrZenith] for once, I agree with Ruben.

21:44:38 [krisrussel] thx for the link :^)

21:44:39 [MissParker] lol {@ Z}

21:45:09 [Ruben20] Anyways, i have to go. I'll try to have the letter sent off asap. And then there's Fox to worry about... Well, good night!

21:45:33 [MissParker] It's not unreasonable to want results....but I don't know what to say to convince you that it is all on us to create the results we want...

21:46:06 [MissParker] we are the ones who control that....and the PTB of course....so the results are a direct reflection of our efforts....

21:46:10 [MissParker] sadly

21:46:48 [krisrussel] I agree with both Ruben and MP... It's very frustrating that all our work usually goes to waste, but we have to keep trying...

21:47:13 [MissParker] and i know the GGL is a "big" and lengthy endeavour...but it brought us together and if anyone has something to suggest that might be more effective, you KNOW I will be there to make a move to start it as long as it's within my power....

21:48:23 [MissParker] So perhaps we need to do some serious brainstorming...or look up on other campaign websites and find out what we cannot think up ourselves...

21:49:21 [MissParker] i agree with Ruben...I want results too  It's not that I'm happy to tool along as usual everyday...i want an ending/closure/whatever sooner rather than later!

21:49:43 [MissParker] And kris, thanks for trying to see both sides...but don't worry, we are not at war!

21:51:07 [MissParker] I' m going to MTW's play on Saturday 29th...any suggestions on what I can say to him or give to him that can help us?

21:51:21 [krisrussel] I know... just voicing my opinion ;^)

21:51:34 [MissParker]

21:54:26 [MissParker] Ok...well....we have some food for thought....let's adjourn...til Thurs at 4pm EST

--- End of Chat ---

15:18:44 [Ruben20] Got the sase today

15:18:49 [MissParker]  thanks for the file kris!

15:18:50 [krisrussel] I'm creating a "Save The Pretender" group on Facebook... Is this ok for you?

15:18:55 [krisrussel] yw :^)

15:20:48 [MissParker] Sure kris! Anywhere we can post the message is great! Despite the scary rumours!

15:20:56 [MissParker] Great Ruben!

15:21:02 [MissParker] I'll let mattali know.

15:22:05 [krisrussel] alright... I'll finish the process and post the link on the various mailinglists and forum

15:22:14 [MissParker] Great kris!

15:23:17 [krisrussel] http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=17879938808

15:23:30 [krisrussel] dunno i you can see it if you're not a member...

15:24:11 [krisrussel] but if people join, they can upload pics and movies and stuff like that

15:30:19 [MissParker] cool!

15:32:42 [MissParker] ohh...ok i'm joining

15:34:29 [MissParker] I'm Catherine Parker!

15:35:25 [krisrussel] lol

15:39:09 [MissParker] Ok....let me try and locate the agenda...

15:39:54 [krisrussel] ok

15:40:17 [MissParker] I remodified my article for the bookcrossing 11th anniversary challenge

15:40:38 [krisrussel] cool

15:40:40 [MissParker] http://forums.prospero.com/foxpretender/messages/?msg=706.1 this is the post about the challenge

15:42:18 [krisrussel] yup, I followed it on the forum

15:45:41 [MissParker] ok....Do you have anything to add in terms of words that can be allowed for book titles for the challenge?

15:46:29 [MissParker] 'The Pretender', 'Pretender', 'Pretend', or 'Jarod', or any other major characters in the title, books with 'Sim' or 'DSA' in the title, and books with 'genius' in the title

15:46:52 [MissParker] and our "Red Notebooks" will all be part of the challenge

15:47:05 [krisrussel] maybe chameleon?

15:47:27 [MissParker] I mentioned a points system as well. oh that's a great suggestion!

15:47:44 [MissParker] chameleon and the other language versions...

15:47:52 [krisrussel] points system is a good idea

15:47:57 [MissParker] French: Cameleon?

15:48:02 [krisrussel] yup

15:48:09 [krisrussel] think so...

15:48:54 [MissParker] I'll have to check the French site to be sure

15:49:49 [MissParker] How should we do the points ranking for the types of books? A 5 pt separation between each rank? Or 1 pt?

15:50:19 [krisrussel] I'd go for 1

15:53:42 [MissParker] ok

15:54:23 [MissParker] So ...trying to think of how to assign the points....

15:55:30 [MissParker] can't think right now...let's move to the agenda

15:55:37 [MissParker] Sims update

15:56:02 [MissParker] no news

15:56:11 [MissParker] Lost RN notebook project update

15:56:43 [MissParker] Well, the update on that is, we have no new volunteers...although some people at the Sim are thinking...well, at least one is...

15:57:04 [MissParker] And I still have to get around to creating a proper set of instructions

15:58:02 [krisrussel] ok

15:58:08 [MissParker] I know that bookcrossing didn't want us to post the challenge for only Red Notebooks, but that doesn't mean we can't still register our red notebooks for the project at the bookcrossing site as planned

15:59:23 [krisrussel] true :^)

15:59:35 [MissParker] We should set a date for launch of this project....we can launch before the 11th anniversary challenge

16:05:52 [MissParker] Now...back to the agenda!

16:06:04 [krisrussel] right... agenda :^)

16:07:51 [MissParker] Are you on Facebook Q?

16:08:03 [MissParker] Or do you hate that site too?

16:08:22 [Quibus] I hate all social networking sites

16:08:44 [MissParker] lol oh yeah, you did say that...

16:12:25 [MissParker] Alright...we need to finish up with Lost Red Notebooks discussion...I have posted a to-do list...to the campaign group and at Fox : http://forums.prospero.com/foxpretender/messages?msg=708.1

16:13:27 [MissParker] Any suggestions to add to that to-do list?

16:16:46 [MissParker] Ruben...any suggestions for the to-do list?

16:18:15 [Ruben20] To be honest....*shamefull*.... after the announcement of the closure of the Fox forum, i left it completley and have not visited it since, so i'm not familiar with this project at all

16:18:20 [MissParker] kris, check out this list: http://forums.prospero.com/foxpretender/messages?msg=708.1

16:18:34 [MissParker] and tell me if you have any suggestions

16:18:40 [MissParker] lol

16:18:43 [MissParker] shame!!

16:18:44 [krisrussel] saw the list

16:19:16 [Ruben20] ... spank me

16:20:47 [MissParker]  lol

16:21:09 [MissParker] Q...any suggestions...?

16:21:17 [krisrussel] no suggestions for now...

16:21:40 [Quibus] nope

16:22:17 [MissParker] Questions about the project?

16:22:26 [MissParker] Do you all understand what is involved?

16:23:08 [Ruben20] I see i'm listed as a volunteer, so i must know something. Was it the one where we were suppose to create our own red notebook and collect sigs?

16:23:42 [krisrussel] yup, I think so

16:24:53 [MissParker] No sigs

16:25:01 [MissParker] Yes you did sign up!

16:26:00 [MissParker] In a nutshell, what you need to do is create RNs, register them at bookcrossing and then release them somewhere.

16:26:23 [MissParker] In the process, you will also do a journal entry for the RN and also make release notes.

16:26:43 [MissParker] The book must be tagged/labelled with a BCID that you will get when you register it.

16:27:11 [MissParker] The suggestion was made to have the word "Free book" on the cover of your RN...to encourage people to pick it up

16:28:11 [Ruben20] What will be in the books?

16:29:55 [MissParker] I have started the instructions...you can take a look here: http://www.4shared.com/file/21762079/bb79ad4c/instructions.html

16:32:06 [krisrussel] I'll print it at work tomorrow and have a decent look at it

16:32:09 [MissParker] But basically, you put info about the show, and why you like it, what the campaign is about, urls, and you must include that we are not a lost cause, so their joining will have a positive effect

16:32:30 [MissParker] BBJ: "the notebook can be printouts of pictures and whatever of The Pretender explaining our mission to save it"

16:32:56 [MissParker] "Firstly, to sell it to people who may not know or care about the show, explain that it is wholesome and gripping,"

16:32:56 [Ruben20] Interesting, Interesting

16:33:09 [MissParker] "Secondly, that we are NOT a lost cause, there is a network interested in picking it back up again, they just need proof of a big enough fan base to do it."

16:33:36 [MissParker] last two lines, also from BBJ

16:33:46 [MissParker] http://forums.prospero.com/foxpretender/messages?msg=645.50 here's her entire post

16:34:06 [MissParker] We could put in the big sell like 'Right now thousands of rednote books just like this one are being released all over the world to send the message that we want more of The Pretender

16:34:09 [MissParker] ...

16:34:29 [krisrussel] :^)

16:34:37 [MissParker] Anyway, so, now that you all have an idea of what's involved, we can move on...

16:34:55 [MissParker] to Bulletin reminders!

16:36:08 [krisrussel] DOH! I knew I'd forgotten something

16:39:57 [MissParker] lol

16:40:27 [MissParker] Oh dear! I did too...  So I won't say anything more!

16:41:01 [MissParker] I found some people on Facebook from Trinidad who have The Pretender in their profile...I'm gonna message them and see if I can get them to sign the GGL!

16:41:21 [MissParker] We should adjourn now....maybe i can really go print my bulletins this time...

16:41:50 [MissParker] I'm trying to send a message but ....the verification thing is giving trouble...what's up with that?

16:42:23 [krisrussel] cool, don't forget to join the group ;^)

16:44:06 [MissParker] yeah...was actually looking for it when I got side tracked!

16:44:14 [krisrussel] :^)

16:44:32 [MissParker] Ok...let me go print some bulletins...ttyl

16:44:44 [krisrussel] ok cu

16:44:58 [Quibus] bye!

16:45:00 [MissParker] Q...you know about Youtube bulletins right?

16:45:08 [MissParker] I almost forgot to mention that!

16:45:16 [Quibus] nope

16:45:26 [Quibus] but I'm not a member on youtube.

16:45:34 [MissParker] You're not?!

16:45:44 [MissParker] ok...what do you have against Youtube?!

16:45:44 [Quibus] nope

16:45:53 [MissParker] It's not a social networking site...

16:45:56 [krisrussel] what!!??

16:46:05 [krisrussel] good point m :^)

16:46:16 [Quibus] oh I have nothing against youtube, it's an awesome site. I've just never needed to upload a video or anything so I've never registered.

16:46:35 [krisrussel] you have no favs on that site?

16:46:45 [MissParker] It's your only way to be able to post bulletins...please consider registering!!

16:47:01 [MissParker] Then you can add friends and post bulletins...and help us save the pretender!

16:47:01 [Quibus] I'll try to remember.

16:47:06 [MissParker] Good!!

16:47:12 [krisrussel] :^)

16:47:15 [Quibus] oh MP...

16:47:17 [MissParker] I will remind you!

16:47:20 [MissParker] lol

16:47:27 [Quibus] I'm recruiting a new fan on the first day of school.

16:47:32 [Quibus] thanks

16:47:42 [MissParker] Yay!!

16:47:45 [krisrussel] cool :^)

16:47:53 [MissParker] how do you know what you will do in the future...?

16:48:02 [Quibus] she should love it. she has a great taste in TV shows.

16:48:11 [MissParker] oh...ok...good to know!

16:48:24 [Quibus] well because she told me to "hook her up" with the DVDs on the first day of school.

16:48:37 [krisrussel] great :^

16:48:40 [krisrussel] :^)

16:48:44 [MissParker] ok....great!

16:49:11 [Quibus] (and because I'm totally psychic... duh! )

16:49:15 [Quibus] bye bye!

16:49:16 [MissParker] lol

-- End of Chat --

Agenda for next chat:

Sims update
LJ login
LRN project
11th anniv challenge
Bulletins - normal and Youtube..

14:37:51 [MissParker] Let's get to the agenda, so I can get back to work...

14:37:55 [MissParker] Sims updates

14:38:34 [MissParker] I emailed Leanda and realised she had sent out Sim 1 really late...more than 12 days....this reminds me I still have to send out an email changing the time limit for Sim 1

14:38:51 [MissParker] So I reminded her to try and get Sim 2 out as fast as possible.

14:39:01 [MissParker] Hope she didn't take offence to my reminding her!

14:39:19 [MissParker] I noticed most of you (if not all) are already on the new GGL map so that's good

14:39:31 [MissParker] anyone here didn't read the email?

14:39:48 [MissParker] no news of the Sims otherwise...

14:40:09 [MissParker] Leanda says their mail system is really very slow so Allura shouldn't expect it very soon...

14:43:22 [Ruben20] Hey, everyone. I apologize for being late (was watching Popeye and time just...).

14:44:32 [MissParker] hey Ruben...it's ok, i was late too...

14:47:47 [MissParker] I noticed I didn't really post an agenda....but you all know the drill right...!

14:48:07 [MissParker] Let's see who's awake and can guess what else we need to discuss...

14:48:18 [krisrussel] I'm sure he does... but I doubt he'll each much spinach... looks a lot like the goo he got in The Centre

14:48:46 [krisrussel] *raises hand* I'm not awake :^/

14:49:09 [MrZenith] I'm awake.

14:49:23 [Ruben20] About Frappr, i sent you an e-mail, Miss Parker about some account troubles i had. Everything just messed itself up - it's hard to explain so i deleted the account and will register again and join the map.

14:50:29 [MissParker] Ok Ruben!

14:53:06 [MissParker] anyone has that Pretender song?

14:53:17 [MissParker] Foo fighters,...to make a vid with?

14:53:31 [MissParker] You are on the map already Ruben...

14:53:37 [krisrussel] yup, I do...

14:53:56 [krisrussel] you want it via e-mail??

14:54:14 [Ruben20] I suspected so, even though i've deleted the account. Is it possible to delete me from the map?

14:54:21 [MissParker] sure...that'd be cool! ty

14:54:29 [MissParker] yup it is....

14:54:35 [MrZenith] MP, mhmm, I have it.

14:54:40 [krisrussel] np... anyone else interested??

14:54:49 [MissParker] what was the trouble you had Ruben?

14:55:05 [krisrussel] Foo Fighters - The Pretender

14:55:14 [krisrussel] Q... check the Fox Forum ;^)

14:55:14 [MissParker] you too Z?

14:55:46 [Quibus] can't at the moment but I want it

14:55:53 [Ruben20] It's possible that it was the computer... when i joined the map, i got registered twice on the location - or at least it looked like that.

14:56:27 [MissParker] I see that when I click on you, it says no such account...so shall I delete that one?

14:56:28 [krisrussel] it's sending

14:56:37 [MissParker] thanks kris!

14:57:03 [Ruben20] Everything that says "Ruben" can be deleted

14:57:19 [MissParker] But you're not listed twice....the only listing is the one that gives me "no such account" when I click it

14:58:09 [MissParker] But anyway, I have removed you, so you can go ahead and try adding yourself again

14:59:13 [Quibus] I don't know how to access my frappr account.

14:59:17 [MissParker] lol

14:59:56 [MissParker] not laughing at you Q....what do you mean you forgot the login info?

15:00:16 [MissParker] I see...you are not on the new map...

15:02:29 [MissParker] You're "Kelly" on the first map...I can try sending you a message to see if it goes to your email inbox...

15:02:32 [Quibus] yeah, I think...

15:02:32 [Ruben20] Okay, i'm watching the new map. There is a yellow pin in Norway. Who's that?

15:02:56 [MissParker] I sent you a friend request.

15:04:13 [Quibus] to what email?

15:04:39 [MissParker] There's Z who's kinda close to Norway...

15:05:14 [MissParker] well, i used the frappr message system...so it should go to whichever email you used to sign up for frappr

15:05:34 [Ruben20] You don't see a yellow pin in Norway?

15:06:08 [Quibus] the problem is I don't know which email that was.

15:06:25 [MissParker] oh that's you! lol

15:06:40 [MissParker] dare I ask how many email accounts you have!

15:07:00 [MissParker] Ruben, I think it may take a while for the map to "forget" your pin...

15:07:12 [MissParker] even though I did delete you ....

15:07:38 [MissParker] Z, are you actually working on anything for a chat at the new site right now...?

15:08:10 [krisrussel] sorry about that... apparently every time I send a big file, my connection won't allow me to leave this chat open...

15:08:31 [krisrussel] but you should receive the song soon :

15:08:39 [MissParker] Ruben, I think the problem may be that you added yourself as a guest and not while logged in, so you wouldn't be able to delete it...ok kris,...thanks!

15:09:31 [MrZenith] Z isn't working on anything at the moment.

15:10:13 [MissParker] ok Z

15:10:38 [MissParker] Ruben, I clicked your name, and it allowed me to send you a message...so I don't know if you will actually get the message....

15:10:44 [MissParker] you should get it via email

15:10:59 [Ruben20] Frappr troubles me

15:11:29 [krisrussel] join the club Ruben :^/

15:11:40 [krisrussel] Frappr doesn't like me either :^/

15:11:53 [Ruben20] Recived the message, MissParker

15:11:56 [MissParker] I realise that it certainly does....you know there is an alternative tracking....if we used bookcrossing...and treat the GGL as a book....bookcrossing doesn't have to know it's not a book...do they?!

15:12:06 [MissParker] by email Ruben?

15:12:31 [MissParker] kris, you did not add yourself while logged into frappr....were you having trouble logging in?

15:12:36 [Ruben20] Yes, and on the account

15:13:08 [MissParker] "on the account"?

15:13:10 [krisrussel] no... I was logged in... that's why I was so surprised it wasn't working like I thought it would...

15:14:31 [MissParker] frappr appears to be buggy....i should probably try and find a decent alternative...

15:14:48 [Ruben20] By e-mail and on "MyMessages" in "MyFrappr" when i logged in. This was after i deleted the previous account and registered the new one.

15:14:56 [krisrussel] Is there an alternative to Frappr??

15:15:28 [MissParker] ok...then things should be ok on the map, for you Ruben...i don't know kris

15:16:17 [MissParker] ok, you're right kris, you were logged in, I just don't know why you didn't show up as a "recipient" the way all logged in members would...

15:16:22 [MissParker] did you choose a pin?

15:17:08 [krisrussel] yeah... I tried to change it, but I made a new entry... that's why I was surprised there was only one of me on there the next day...

15:17:30 [MissParker] You should have a green/yellow pin....not the orange-yellow guest pin...

15:17:35 [MissParker] i see...that's odd

15:17:45 [MissParker] do you want me to delete your pin, so you can change it?

15:18:13 [krisrussel] yeah, that would be great thx :^)

15:18:17 [MissParker] sometimes it just takes a long while for changes to register...

15:18:28 [Ruben20] Yes, now everything seems to be in order

15:19:10 [MissParker] like yesterday when I switched the recipient and the signatory colour...it didn't change right away although I tried refreshing the map. ok good Ruben...kris, I will delete you...so you can re-add...

15:20:15 [MissParker] Ruben, I don't think you need to do anything more, although, I'm still seeing another Ruben showing up, I think it will "right" itself by tomorrow.

15:20:15 [krisrussel] ok thx

15:20:20 [MissParker] yw

15:20:44 [Ruben20] Hope so

15:21:14 [MissParker] we'll see...at any rate...i know which one to delete!

15:22:37 [krisrussel] that's a good start ;^)

15:24:01 [MissParker] So...on to the new project discussion

15:24:11 [MissParker] Red notebooks and Bookcrossing...

15:24:34 [krisrussel] the other one is back on the map!!

15:24:58 [krisrussel] the second one... being the good one... can you see it too MP??

15:27:18 [MissParker] nope...not on my map...

15:27:31 [krisrussel] how weird...

15:27:47 [MissParker] i have no kris.russel on my map...very weird!

15:27:47 [krisrussel] there's no green pin in Belgium with my name??

15:27:55 [MissParker] i say, give it a day...

15:28:41 [krisrussel] it's this one, right: http://www.frappr.com/gglgemini8

15:29:59 [krisrussel] can you see the pic with J, MP and Syd?

15:31:48 [MissParker] Nope...

15:31:56 [MissParker] yes that's the right url

15:32:13 [MissParker] i have 2 Rubens, 1 of everyone else but no kris....

15:32:33 [MissParker] you can try to add again...but I will check tomorrow...to see if it finally got added

15:32:34 [krisrussel] very strange... we'll see what it says tomorrow than... *curses Frappr*

15:32:53 [MissParker]  yes, we'll see

15:34:07 [MissParker] it's week 3 for LJ...that means you kris, although you did login for Q...

15:34:25 [MissParker] we have 5 weeks this month...sorta....

15:35:21 [MissParker] any questions/suggestions for the new project lost red notebooks?

15:35:38 [MissParker] Reminders: Bulletins to be posted!

15:35:48 [krisrussel] not for now...

15:36:15 [krisrussel] logged into LJ

15:36:38 [MissParker] ok...good!

15:36:59 [krisrussel] :^)

15:37:24 [krisrussel] about the bulletins on MySpace, do we use the same txt as on the paper bulletins??

15:42:27 [krisrussel] *coughs*

15:42:43 [MissParker] yes we do

15:42:55 [krisrussel] ok :^)

15:43:10 [MissParker] you may add an active url link because it is allowed I believe

15:43:28 [krisrussel] ok :^)

15:50:09 [MissParker] I hope you "post and boast" about your bulletins soon...

15:50:21 [MissParker] i have to go print mine now...it's almost mid month!

15:50:48 [krisrussel] :^)

15:50:59 [krisrussel] I'll try to do it tomorrow...

15:51:27 [MissParker] right...btw, look out for your SASE...i believe mattali mailed one to you

15:52:09 [krisrussel] yep, I read it on the forum...

15:52:14 [MissParker] oh good!

15:52:21 [MissParker] we should adjourn....i need to get some stuff done, Q is half asleep anyway....do we have any burning issues to discuss?

15:53:25 [krisrussel] I don't think so...

15:53:50 [MissParker] ok...hasta la vista!

15:54:16 [MrZenith] byes. I'll be on IRC.

15:54:39 [krisrussel] bye.. I'll move to irc too :^)

-- End of chat --

15:11:36 [MissParker] You guys didn't even remind me....we keep forgetting about the Milk Carton project!

15:12:03 [MissParker] we have to discuss that...

15:12:18 [MissParker] Anyway, agenda is: 1) Sims update

15:12:25 [MissParker] 2) Scifi letters

15:12:43 [MissParker] 3) Wandering Rednotebooks (cover, contents, links)/Anniversary challenge

15:12:44 [krisrussel] milk carton project??

15:12:57 [MissParker] 4) Bulletins, Milk Carton & Diggs

15:13:20 [MissParker] Yep....we discussed it probably a month or more ago...chat transcript would have it...

15:13:31 [MissParker] You know...the face on the Milk Carton?

15:13:39 [MissParker] Missing persons

15:13:39 [Quibus] I remember talk of it.

15:13:51 [MissParker] Whew! Somebody remembers!

15:14:36 [krisrussel] ah, right... we don't do that in Europe...

15:14:37 [Quibus] but I haven't seen a milk carton in about a bajillion years so... I dunno if I'll be able to help with that project.

15:15:05 [MissParker] what do you mean? Don't they use milk cartons any more?

15:15:10 [krisrussel] I very vaguely remember something once said about it...

15:15:21 [Quibus] nope.

15:15:25 [krisrussel] yeah, but they don't stick faces on it... not here anyway...

15:15:38 [MissParker] Well, I guess we may have to put that one on the backburner for a while...in case we can figure out how to work around it....

15:16:11 [MissParker] Well, it doesn't matter if they don't stick faces on it kris, because the people we're sending them to, would know the significance of faces on a milk carton

15:17:03 [MissParker] so, if you have them to use, that would be great...except you are so far away, only if you're coming to the USA, so you can bring the empty cartons....

15:17:37 [krisrussel] ok

15:17:38 [MissParker] but anyway, I think we should focus on the challenge for the red notebooks for 11th anniversary of tP

15:19:41 [krisrussel] yup

15:19:42 [MissParker] Sims update

15:19:44 [Quibus] is that the bookcrossings one?

15:19:47 [MissParker] If anyone notices Leanda around some forums...please ask about Sim 2....

15:19:57 [MissParker] Yes that's right Q

15:20:07 [MissParker] Are you volunteering by the way....?

15:20:33 [Quibus] I see no way around it.

15:21:02 [krisrussel] :^)

15:21:13 [MissParker]  Oh good!

15:21:34 [MissParker] Do you all need instructions on how to make a red notebook?

15:21:59 [Quibus] yep.

15:22:03 [Ruben20] Are we going to make red notebooks?

15:22:52 [MissParker] yes we are....will you be the volunteer for Norway Ruben?

15:23:32 [Ruben20] Sure, send me the recipe

15:23:55 [krisrussel] quick question, if there's one link we can mention on the radio, wich is the best one??

15:24:49 [krisrussel] yes MP, instructions for the notebooks would be good...

15:25:33 [MissParker] good question....one link...depends on what you say I think....if you're just talking of tP in general, and if it has to be now, then Fox forum is the best link.

15:26:02 [MissParker] When we launch the campaign site...and if you're going to mention the campaign: then that link would be best

15:26:55 [krisrussel] nope, a buddy of mine is coming on the radio tonight... I want to try to give him a link to our cause...

15:27:28 [krisrussel] so it's kinda urgent ;^)

15:28:31 [MissParker] ok then use the Fox forum link....the campaign site is not yet launched...unless you want to give the current campaign site...

15:28:45 [krisrussel] just as long as the link is easy...

15:28:52 [Quibus] fox forum is probably the best.

15:29:14 [MissParker] thepretenderfans.com is easiest but it's expiring next month...

15:29:38 [krisrussel] *sighs*

15:29:42 [MissParker] what exactly would he say?

15:30:23 [krisrussel] not a lot prolly, just point attention to us in one or two sentences...

15:30:39 [krisrussel] I'll take thepretenderfans.com link... easiest...

15:31:35 [MissParker] ok kris...that's cool...

15:32:03 [MissParker] btw, all Diggers: there's a nice article that supports our cause that we need to Digg: http://www.digg.com/television/Reflections_on_NBC_s_The_Pretender

15:35:17 [Quibus] dugg.

15:36:31 [krisrussel] I dugg it... and commented :^)

15:37:11 [MissParker] yay!

15:37:39 [krisrussel] :^)

15:37:47 [MissParker] I'm updating the current activities on the campaign site kris, so at least it will have all new info for newbie visitors.

15:39:37 [krisrussel] thx... I hope my buddy can say something on the air about us...

15:40:38 [MissParker] yeah i hope so too. thanks for trying anyway!

15:41:53 [krisrussel] yw... it's for a good cause ;^)

15:43:25 [MissParker] So...about this Red Notebook challenge....what do you all think of me submitting it as an article on Bookcrossing.com? Should I? Or do we just announce it among ourselves and do the "release" on the day of the anniversary, using the bookcrossing site to register releases and follow progress etc?

15:44:07 [Quibus] dunno

15:44:23 [MissParker] If I submit it as an article there is a chance that more new people can see it and join in...and there is also the chance that we don't get enough people to do anything and it "falls flat" ...

15:45:18 [Ruben20] It wouldn't hurt. If you have the time and know what to say, i say go ahead.

15:45:27 [krisrussel] hmm... not an easy choice

15:47:07 [MissParker] well, i did post my "proposed" article at Fox...so you guys can take a look...and tell me what you think...just post a response there, or in the thread about it at the Sim...

15:49:16 [krisrussel] ok

15:52:33 [MissParker] ok Ruben, kris

15:55:06 [MissParker] Scifi letters....we need volunteers for daily emails...did you already "sign up" for that kris?

15:55:39 [MissParker] Oh you know...I think I will ask mattali to send you two SASE's so you can send a Scifi snail mail letter as well...what do you think about that?

15:55:54 [MissParker] both you and Ruben that is...

15:56:25 [MissParker] Q, would you like to be on the roster for Scifi daily emails?

15:57:15 [krisrussel] ok for me

15:58:56 [MissParker] ok for the two SASEs or for the Scifi daily email roster or both?

15:59:32 [krisrussel] I had already given my ok for the list ;^)

15:59:58 [MissParker] ok good...I thought so ...but I wasn't sure....

16:00:12 [krisrussel] :^)

16:00:16 [MissParker] I should have made the roster right away...too many things in my little head!

16:01:45 [krisrussel] problem sounds familiiar ;^)

16:09:26 [MissParker] Do you have anything to add re the content of the red notebooks other than what was posted?

16:10:37 [krisrussel] nope, not right now

16:14:28 [MissParker] ok

16:15:13 [MissParker] just want to remind you both to try and post some bulletins....q, are there any boards at school? ....although I know school is out now...

16:16:14 [krisrussel] yup, I try to remember

16:17:00 [krisrussel] reaction from my buddy: I'll pass it on... I'm 90% certain it'll be no problem (unless he's doing an interview) around 8:00 EST.

16:17:26 [Quibus] no boards at school.

16:17:27 [krisrussel] so hopefully we'll be on the air around 8 PM EST :^)

16:18:11 [MissParker] yay kris!

16:18:23 [MissParker] is that the link that's in your gmail profile right now?

16:18:41 [MissParker] I'll try to listen for it...

16:18:46 [krisrussel] hehe, yeah :^D

16:19:08 [krisrussel] my buddy's name is DJ Mr. Bill...

16:19:43 [krisrussel] so if John (the presenter) says anything about Bill, it means we could be mentioned soon...

16:19:51 [krisrussel] :^)

16:20:47 [MissParker] ahhh...

16:20:49 [MissParker] cool!

16:21:46 [MissParker] ok Q...what do you think about hi5...do you think you can tolerate it enough to post a classified there?

16:22:42 [Quibus] huh?

16:23:38 [krisrussel] lol

16:24:12 [MissParker] hi5.com

16:24:19 [MissParker] Try it out!

16:24:22 [krisrussel] is our MySpace link somewhere clearly visible on thepretenderfans.com ?

16:25:17 [MissParker] oh...i don't think so...gotta change that...thanks for the reminder!

16:25:41 [Quibus] I don't like the look of it.

16:25:51 [MissParker] http://www.hi5.com/friend/displayClassifieds.do?service=generic&method=details&postid=1954026550 can you see the ad?

16:26:01 [MissParker] C'mon Q...it's for a worthy cause!

16:26:07 [MissParker] Just try it...

16:27:17 [Quibus] can't. it's against my policy.

16:28:07 [MissParker] what policy is that?

16:28:15 [MissParker] hello BringbackJ!

16:28:24 [BringBackJ] Hey, real people!

16:28:38 [Quibus] hello

16:28:47 [Quibus] the policy of no sites like that.

16:28:58 [BringBackJ] hehe (I always seem to arrive when its empty)

16:29:27 [MissParker] I understand your policy.....but i'm not asking you to interact...just post the ad!! like hit and run.... lol

16:30:31 [MissParker] no chat time is 4:00 on the dot...!

16:30:42 [MissParker] on Thursdays and 3:00 pm Tuesdays

16:31:01 [krisrussel] 3 PM on tuesday

16:31:16 [BringBackJ] and now being '4.30'...so its halfway through right? Just so I can calculate it next time!

16:31:43 [krisrussel] it's almost over I'm afraid

16:33:32 [krisrussel] BBJ, from where are you??

16:33:33 [MissParker] btw BBJ, did you ever Demand your closure? http://eventful.com/demand/D0-001-000193652-5

16:33:41 [MissParker] New Zealand

16:33:51 [BringBackJ] its still nice to meet you guys in real time

16:34:10 [MissParker] yes and it's nice to chat with you too!

16:34:26 [BringBackJ] I did indeed! *But clicking the link anyway coz its so exciting*

16:34:29 [Quibus] I agree

16:34:37 [MissParker] Q, will you please try to post the bulletins on hi5?

16:34:38 [Quibus] are you at Fox?

16:34:46 [MissParker] lol I agree BBJ!

16:34:54 [Quibus] MP, it's against my policy!

16:35:07 [BringBackJ] wow 187 now! yay

16:35:12 [krisrussel] New Zealand? Waw... what time is it there now??

16:35:29 [MissParker] yeah! the number is increasing slowly!

16:35:41 [BringBackJ] its ah...9.35 am. I am in my PJs

16:35:52 [krisrussel] lol

16:36:11 [MissParker] Oh, btw, BBJ, there's another Digg article to Digg: http://www.digg.com/television/Reflections_on_NBC_s_The_Pretender

16:36:13 [Quibus] wow!

16:36:17 [BringBackJ] I think my husband thinks I've lost it...

16:36:30 [BringBackJ] ooh ooh!

16:36:36 [MissParker] oh well!

16:37:14 [MissParker] You're so enthusiastic! I love that!

16:44:01 [MissParker] So....to summarise....I have started a thread for volunteers for the new project: Lost/Wandering Red Notebooks....we have to settle on a title....

16:45:03 [MissParker] Pick a title people! Lost or Wandering or other?

16:45:12 [MissParker] for the Red Notebooks

16:45:47 [MissParker] Ordinarily I wouldn't mind calling it both...but it's not good for PR to have long names!

16:45:49 [Quibus] dunno. they are both equally qualified.

16:46:17 [BringBackJ] hmm well they both fit well, but lost is easier to type lol

16:46:22 [MissParker] yes they are Q...but you can never choose anyway!

16:46:55 [MissParker] Thanks BBJ! ...ok we have a vote for Lost...and I'm kinda partial to short names myself...for the same reason...

16:47:42 [BringBackJ] even for short! Its easier to say LRN than DOUBLEYOU RN

16:47:44 [MissParker] Except...they're not really lost though...but I think we can get away with the "technicality" if we say they're Jarod's lost notebooks in the description....right?

16:47:54 [krisrussel] I go for 'Lost'

16:49:25 [MissParker] ok...we'll go with "Lost Red Notebooks" then....

16:49:46 [BringBackJ] oh...yes to your long sentence MP

16:50:19 [MissParker] good!

16:50:26 [BringBackJ] It seems that some ppl gettin quite confused by the whole bookcrossing thing...

16:50:36 [BringBackJ] i'm not sure how to explain it more simply!

16:51:30 [MissParker] So we have a Lost Red Notebooks project - in planning that will incorporate a Red Notebooks Release Challenge....for the 11th anniversary...

16:51:48 [BringBackJ] yay!

16:52:06 [BringBackJ] I should shower more often lol

16:52:18 [MissParker] BBJ, I understand what you mean...hopefully a totally basic step by step with graphics will help them out...i want to try and work on that...asap and yeah...double yay!!

16:53:04 [BringBackJ] hahahaha the plan came to me in the shower lol...just bein a dork

16:53:17 [MissParker] oh yeah...i remember now! lol

16:54:01 [MissParker] oh that reminds me of something I wanted to do ....acknowledgements ...

16:54:20 [krisrussel]

16:54:33 [MissParker] for the campaign site we are working on launching...some are definitely missing...will have to add them in...we'll also have to do a new page for the new project...

16:55:02 [MissParker] it's almost time for me to leave though...so we'll have to take this up later....

16:55:18 [MissParker] before I lose the net connection

16:55:31 [MissParker] i want to get the transcript posted

17:00:46 [BringBackJ] ok...so is the part where we all have to say live long and prosper?

17:00:59 [MissParker] btw, BBJ, I think we can call you Division Coordinator for New Zealand...we've never had a NZander in our "ranks"!

17:01:06 [MissParker] yep actually it is..!

17:01:13 [MissParker] Long live the Pretender!

17:01:19 [krisrussel] I still say Live long and Prosper... :^/

17:01:21 [BringBackJ] oh wow! exciting! *shines badge*

--  End of chat --

14:24:57 [MissParker] There's a new idea over at Fox for the campaign....another kind of red notebook project...

14:25:12 [krisrussel] yeah, I just read the mail...

14:29:55 [krisrussel] quickly looked at the sci-fi letter... looks good at first glance...

14:30:33 [MissParker] ok kris, thanks....i think so too

14:30:54 [MissParker] no news on the sims yet...

14:32:21 [MissParker] I did post an agenda...at CPF...brb

14:42:02 [MissParker] btw, have you had a chance to discuss the chat setup over at the campaign site...or are you waiting for the launch to finalise details to set that up?

14:42:23 [MissParker] I was just wondering ...

14:42:40 [MissParker] right...the agenda

14:43:23 [MrZenith] not yet.

14:43:53 [MissParker] not yet...because you're waiting for the launch or not yet because of other reasons?

14:44:32 [MissParker] Agenda 1) Sim updates

14:44:42 [MissParker] 2) Letters (Fox, Scifi)

14:44:52 [MissParker] 3) DIGG.com

14:44:58 [MissParker] 4) LJ login

14:45:05 [MissParker] 5) GGL send off

14:45:21 [MissParker] 6) Bulletins & other projects

14:45:51 [MissParker] we've already done #1 ... no news..

14:46:03 [MissParker] So next is #2

14:46:25 [MissParker] Thanks for sending the sci fi letter to me Ruben! It's now been sent to the group: FrustratedTpFans

14:46:44 [MissParker] I think I will post it to Fox forum as well...

14:47:07 [krisrussel] the letter to sci-fi I read is good... some typo's and I'll read it better tomorrow when I'm more awake and post my thoughts...

14:47:08 [MissParker] yeah kris...it's been a while...let's hope they're ok!

14:47:16 [MrZenith] because not yet.

14:47:38 [MissParker] ok on the letter kris

14:47:43 [MissParker] ok Z!

14:48:10 [Ruben20] Will http://www.campaign.pretendercentre.com be our headquarters from now on?

14:49:34 [krisrussel] I think Fox will stay our HQ until it's no more... I think...

14:49:58 [MissParker] Not yet Ruben...it's not been launched officially

14:50:02 [Ruben20] And after?

14:50:28 [Ruben20] I see. But when it's launched officially?

14:50:38 [MissParker] And yeah...we are trying to stay over at Fox, but we will have the campaign site as well, things will be discussed in detail there, and copied over to Fox...

14:52:23 [MissParker] we'll always stay with Fox as long as the forum is not readonly because we want to impress the PTB and also because we encourage fans to go there, so we have to keep posting to let them know what's what....even if we have the campaign site as our main campaign HQ

14:53:54 [Ruben20] I'm troubled, though i'll admit i haven't payed much attention to the happenings once we got the message that the Fox forum was going down. Didn't we agree to one place we'd head over to once the forum closes (when it closes)?

14:53:59 [MissParker] so next on the agenda...other Sci-fi letters...you can use Ruben's to help guide you...it was sent through FrustratedTpFans...or create your own...but we need volunteers to send the daily email to Sci fi too

14:54:43 [MissParker] Any replies from Fox by any chance?

14:55:46 [krisrussel] not that I know of

14:56:30 [MissParker] I think we sorta did...it's PretenderCentre I guess...because it was either there or the old campaign mb which will soon be non-existent to be replaced by the new campaign site and board...

14:56:37 [MissParker] why are you troubled?

14:57:32 [MissParker] campaign.pretendercentre.com the new campaign site is a part of pretendercentre.com so the forum there will be linked from the new campaign site...

14:58:15 [Ruben20] Ah, i see. Didn't know that (shame on me). I thought it was two completley separate forums.

14:58:36 [MissParker]  it's ok...we forgive you!

14:59:01 [Ruben20] Good, good. Back to Fox. What are we going to do?

14:59:25 [MissParker] re letters you mean?

14:59:39 [MissParker] or an address?

14:59:41 [Ruben20] Yes, ma'am

15:00:39 [MissParker] Re: address...someone is going to have to call so we can get an address if we don't get any replies by the time we have sent the GGL around the world...

15:01:09 [MissParker] Although...we actually do have quite a bit of time to play with...

15:02:04 [Ruben20] As long as we have time, it's okay. We still have some new adresses to send to. Has anyone here sent theirs?

15:02:35 [krisrussel] no, don't have a SASE

15:02:54 [MissParker] I am still waiting for a SASE...but Q should have sent hers...Q?

15:03:28 [MissParker] I think I was supposed to email mattali about sending us a SASE...but she's just as busy as Melissa...maybe Q can send us one!

15:03:53 [MissParker] Q, what do you think?

15:04:00 [krisrussel] good idea :^)

15:04:04 [MrZenith] Q haven't done anything.

15:04:05 [Ruben20] I'm also waiting. Who else besides us received an adress to send to (don't remember how many i found...)?

15:04:42 [MissParker] I think redneterp has an NBC address she was going to try...

15:04:58 [MissParker] actually if we could get hold of her red could probably help with the SASEs

15:05:18 [MissParker] but she hasn't been around for a while...i should pm her at cpf or something...

15:13:59 [MissParker] ok next on the agenda...

15:14:10 [MissParker] Digg

15:14:11 [krisrussel] yes

15:14:30 [krisrussel] I dugg it ;^)

15:14:42 [MissParker] yay to all the Digg'ers!

15:14:43 [Ruben20] I received your invitation to Digg, MissParker (i'm already registered). Anyone else register?

15:16:19 [MissParker] Everyone is registered....but someone here did not digg...

15:16:19 [krisrussel] yup

15:16:31 [krisrussel] noooooo... who??

15:17:08 [MissParker] Q!!!

15:17:21 [Quibus] I did!

15:18:06 [krisrussel] prove it!

15:18:33 [Quibus] kinda busy at the moment'

15:20:31 [MissParker] must have been recent

15:21:01 [Quibus] sunday

15:22:40 [MissParker] ok...not

15:22:52 [MissParker] Quibus: Last Dugg: <no stories dugg yet>

15:23:20 [Quibus] I posted a comment

15:24:19 [MissParker] ok....but you have to digg

15:24:31 [krisrussel] yeah, but you have to digg it

15:24:55 [MissParker] click the "digg it" link below the # of diggs

15:25:09 [Quibus] I thought that was digging it

15:38:24 [MissParker] Q: go to Digg.com, make sure you're logged in then open this link: http://www.digg.com/television/Save_The_Pretender

15:38:59 [MissParker] then click the "digg it" link

15:39:27 [MissParker] if you click on who dugg or blogged you'll see you are not listed there......

15:39:39 [MissParker] ok...next on the agenda..

15:39:50 [MissParker] LJ login

15:40:14 [MissParker] well, it's Q's turn, but she's busy at the moment, so I guess we can remind her on Thursday...

15:40:31 [MissParker] next: GGL send off

15:41:44 [krisrussel] I did a quick login...

15:41:47 [MissParker] ok Z

15:41:52 [MissParker] thanks kris!

15:43:44 [MissParker] As soon as the sims reach South Africa and Portugal, they will have intersected...

15:43:46 [krisrussel] yw

15:44:00 [krisrussel] cool

15:44:24 [MissParker] so we could, as planned, order the real thing and start the send off...i need to confirm with ravengurl though...to make sure she is not too busy to handle it...

15:44:37 [MissParker] i was thinking we need to do a press release for it too....

15:44:47 [MissParker] and we could submit that to Digg as well...

15:45:03 [krisrussel] good idea

15:45:48 [MissParker] most importantly, all new people will have to send signatures to ravengurl or to kris...they could send to ravengurl until she sends it off...then send to kris

15:46:38 [MissParker] i.e. newbies cannot sign directly/handle the real GGL unless they're like mattali and are meeting up with an established participant

15:47:41 [MissParker] We could start a special page for the real GGL...when it launches...and submit a link to that for Digg'ing...or do the press release...

15:48:20 [MissParker] We need to clean up the GGL frappr..i think there are some people on there who are not participating....

15:49:14 [MissParker] Since we are all members of Digg now, I hope to be able to delegate the "Digg submission" to someone else...of course, I will help with the actual text for the submission if necessary...not that mine was perfect!

15:49:53 [MissParker] I just don't want to be the only one submitting Pretender related stuff to be "dugg"

15:50:44 [Quibus] dugg

15:51:06 [MissParker] I think 16 is a paltry number of Diggers...I wonder where the rest of the people are! I posted this at several forums...yay Q!!!

15:51:21 [MissParker] 17 diggs!

15:51:24 [krisrussel] people are lazy

15:51:28 [MissParker] great!

15:51:42 [Quibus] not quite so paltry now?

15:51:44 [MissParker] I guess so kris...but how do they expect to get anything done?

15:51:52 [MissParker] yeah Q!

15:52:17 [Quibus] sorry I didn't do it earlier. didn't know there was that button.

15:52:22 [MissParker] I was looking at another article submitted a day later than mine...it had over 800 diggs!

15:52:35 [MissParker] It's ok Q...it happens...

15:52:57 [MissParker] I knew I'd eventually get you to Digg it...it's the other fans out there I'm really concerned about!

15:53:20 [Quibus] well, good luck with them!

15:53:45 [MissParker] lol

15:55:13 [MissParker] ty

15:55:23 [krisrussel] maybe they don't like the fact that they have to register?

15:55:31 [MissParker] next: Bulletins

15:56:09 [MissParker] Probably kris...but it's all relative you know...I hate signing up for new sites...but if I have to do it for the sake of the campaign, I just do it...

15:56:39 [MissParker] Right...it's a new month, which means new Bulletins...people please try and post some for this month!

15:56:47 [krisrussel] I know... same for me...

15:56:56 [MissParker] don't forget the myspace option if you're not afraid of myspace like some people!!

15:57:02 [krisrussel] I will try

15:57:29 [Quibus] I'm not afraid, I just hate it.

15:57:39 [MissParker] yeah kris...I can totally understand...but at least you try and do what needs to be done...we need more fans to have that attitude...or maybe they don't know how to ... are not as net savvy...? Then they should just ask!

15:57:50 [MissParker] Oh..ok Q!

15:59:46 [krisrussel] yup, asking never hurt anyone...

16:00:56 [MissParker] exactly kris!

16:03:06 [MissParker] so...can you guys do some bulletins...take some time off your busy schedules to print up a sheet...?

16:03:54 [Quibus] I've seen no bulletin boards in town.

16:04:47 [MrZenith] I know for a fact that we don't have any bulletinboards around here.

16:05:25 [krisrussel] same problem here

16:08:21 [MissParker] Have you checked the libraries?

16:08:43 [MissParker] If there are none there, then myspace is your last chance!

16:09:17 [MissParker] Anyway, to move on...time's running out...there's a new project being discussed....wandering red notebooks project

16:10:28 [MissParker] be interesting: describe for me the save the pretender video...

16:10:30 [krisrussel] yup, glanced at the mail

16:10:40 [MissParker] i need a blurb to submit it somewhere else...

16:12:54 [MissParker] Z or Q have you read about the new project?

16:13:40 [Quibus] that depends.

16:14:00 [MrZenith] Z has not done that, no.

16:14:13 [MissParker] it was posted to the campaign group ...

16:15:11 [MissParker] Jumping back to Digg: I think the frightening low # of diggs could be blamed on my poor "marketing" in the blurb....so I need something more "interesting" to submit it to Plime.com...

16:17:29 [MissParker] any takers?

16:18:43 [MissParker] Well, in a nutshell the new project is related to the website http://www.bookcrossing.com so we should probably check it out...

16:18:51 [krisrussel] what's plime.com??

16:19:35 [MissParker] [Bookcrossing.com] that's where the idea was spawned...apparently people there leave books they don't want all over the place, put instructions in them to direct people to the website and the book is tracked that way...

16:19:45 [MissParker] plime is a version of digg

16:20:08 [krisrussel] ah

16:20:34 [MissParker] idea with rednotebooks is to: to make little red notebooks and release them into the wild!

16:20:43 [MissParker] use book crossing to track them

16:20:53 [MissParker] the notebook can be printouts of pictures and whatever of The Pretender explaining our mission to save it.

16:21:04 [MissParker] it is key to include two pieces of information.

16:21:12 [MissParker] Firstly, to sell it to people who may not know or care about the show

16:21:22 [MissParker] explain that it is wholesome and gripping...

16:21:28 [MissParker] Secondly, that we are NOT a lost cause, there is a network interested in picking it back up again

16:21:34 [MissParker] they just need proof of a big enough fan base to do it

16:21:40 [MissParker] So that people feel like they will actually make a difference not just a waste of time

16:22:01 [MissParker] We could put in the big sell like 'Right now thousands of rednote books just like this one are being released

16:22:07 [MissParker] all over the world to send the message that we want more of The Pretender and other shows like it

16:22:15 [MissParker] Be a part of the movement!' We would then write down links inside to the different petitions to sign, and then they release the notebook themselves.

16:23:19 [krisrussel] cool :^)

16:23:36 [MissParker] At Bookcrossing, they give books unique ids: BCIDs which are then used to track the books

16:23:44 [Quibus] sounds like a good idea

16:24:47 [krisrussel] yup indeed

16:25:31 [MissParker] I thought so too...am joining bookcrossing now...

16:25:35 [MrZenith] yeah.

16:25:48 [MissParker] can't find a username...MissParker is taken!

16:25:59 [krisrussel] oh no

16:26:29 [MissParker] Looks like a pretty big site...

16:26:35 [MissParker] any suggestions for a name?

16:26:58 [krisrussel] MsParker

16:27:11 [krisrussel] IceQueen

16:27:18 [krisrussel] DragonLady

16:27:51 [krisrussel] CentreBitch

16:27:56 [krisrussel] ;^)

16:28:46 [MissParker] lol

16:29:16 [MissParker] IceQueen is kinda cool...but I decided to go with the same one I use at Fox...probably shouldn't have...but thanks for the suggestions!

16:29:40 [krisrussel] yw ;^)

16:30:52 [MissParker] http://bookcrossing.com/friend/missparkr join!

16:33:52 [MissParker] So what do you all think about the idea...should we go with bookcrossing as the tracking, or set up a separate site?

16:37:06 [MissParker] Congratulations! You've successfully registered a book in the BookCrossing.com system. Your new and unique BCID number is above.

16:37:14 [MissParker] BCID: 068-5354272

16:37:22 [krisrussel] dunno yet... have to check out the bookcrossing site first

16:41:03 [krisrussel] cool entry :^)

16:41:32 [MissParker] Well, I did a first registration to make sure it was possible to register our red notebooks...and it works fine...although actually there are labels that we can print, (that would have a pre-set ID) even before registering the book, so we could go that route too...

16:41:37 [MissParker] thanks kris!

16:42:22 [krisrussel] seems like a cool site...

16:42:52 [MissParker] ok think about the project and we'll talk some more at next chat...

16:43:18 [MissParker] we need volunteers

16:43:33 [MissParker] at least one for each country I think...

16:43:56 [MrZenith] I can sense that I just volunteered for Sweden...

16:44:10 [MissParker] lol

16:44:11 [krisrussel] I volunteer for Belgium ;^)

16:44:17 [MissParker] He's so smart!

16:44:21 [MissParker] yay kris!

16:44:24 [MissParker] yay Z!

16:46:54 [MissParker] Ok, we shall adjourn now..don't forget your bulletins...and be prepared to start working on red notebooks to release into the wild!

16:48:17 [MrZenith] yeah.

-- End of chat --

15:07:34 [MissParker] kris, do you have the pretender theme song handy...nearby somewhere?

15:08:10 [krisrussel] yeah, hang on, have to turn on the other hard disk...

15:08:15 [MissParker] and I need something audio to add to it....figured the tP theme would be best...

15:08:20 [MissParker] ok thanks!

15:09:22 [Ruben20] Miss Parker, about the letter to sci-fi, was that supposed to be a letter like the ones we wrote to Fox?

15:10:18 [krisrussel] you want the regular theme??

15:10:31 [MissParker] yup please...is there another kind?

15:10:53 [MissParker] Yes Ruben, something like that...the outline should guide you...

15:11:14 [Ruben20] There were two theme songs

15:11:22 [krisrussel] yeah, there are a couple of demos ;^)

15:11:37 [krisrussel] and indeed two different themes

15:11:42 [Ruben20] About that letter, couldn't we just copy the one mattali made?

15:11:55 [Ruben20] for Fox

15:11:56 [MissParker] ok....kris...just the regular one i think...

15:12:43 [MissParker] not exactly....we would need to customise it just a bit Ruben...since Scifi is not exactly going to be familiar with tP like Fox, who are distributing DVDs...

15:13:04 [krisrussel] I'll send the two regular theme...

15:13:35 [Ruben20] I see

15:19:46 [krisrussel] MP the mail with the themes is sent :^)

15:20:13 [MissParker] thanks kris!

15:20:33 [MissParker] You can definitely use the summary from the letter we sent out though...i did....

15:25:06 [MissParker] Ok, the vid is saving now...very simple..I will then upload to Youtube, and my 4shared account....

15:25:06 [krisrussel] P, how far are you on my fic??

15:25:46 [MissParker] Ooops! I keep forgetting....sorry kris....today for sure...if I have to stay here til 10, I will finish....I promise!

15:26:11 [krisrussel] lol, np... tomorrow will do too ;^)

15:27:30 [MissParker] I'm really sorry about that...if I don't set reminders in my phone I forget everything!

15:30:00 [Ruben20] So... the clock is ticking agendawise

15:31:18 [krisrussel] I have the same problem, so np ;^)

15:31:34 [MissParker] Agenda is as usual: Sims, letters, campaign site, other projects

15:31:42 [MissParker] News on the Sims?

15:36:05 [krisrussel] not that I know of...

15:36:09 [MissParker] Looks like no news yet

15:36:09 [Ruben20] It dosen't seem to be. Just checked the forum.

15:36:20 [MissParker] Ok Ruben. Thanks!

15:36:55 [MissParker] So any letters we can use yet? Mine is still in draft form, I need to check for mistakes....

15:37:57 [MissParker] For Scifi that is...

15:40:04 [Ruben20] I sat down and started to write, before i had the idea of jusing m's letter, but i didn't think of what you said. basically, i guess it should contain a summary of the show's plot and it's television airing, what happened when it was cancelled, the movies, the projects, etc... and end with our

15:40:09 [Ruben20] request. We should perhaps also mention wikipedia.

15:40:11 [krisrussel] draft here too... was a bit confused with my days today because of wrong shipments at work... hate it when that happens...

15:40:43 [krisrussel] Ruben, do what you want to do in your letter, we'll prolly combine the best pieces

15:41:27 [MissParker] that's a good idea

15:41:57 [MissParker] what exactly should we say about wikipedia?

15:43:59 [Ruben20] That it was menitoned there that sci-fi claimed interest in financing a third film before it was removed, and that it was what made us interested in contacting you [sci-fi].

15:44:48 [krisrussel] sounds good

15:47:58 [MissParker] Oh right...that's true Ruben, we should mention that

15:52:45 [MissParker] Posted video link here:

http://www.pretendercentre.com/forum/index.php?topic=568.msg6164#new

15:53:50 [MissParker] Ok re: letters, can we all report back on Tues with our completed letters....or maybe post them to the campaign group as suggested templates to help other people send letters to Sci-fi?

15:55:06 [Ruben20] Alright

15:55:33 [MissParker] Forgot to add this to agenda...LJ login (for the GGL blogging) -this is week 1, so mattali will log in.

15:55:42 [MissParker] ok, next

15:56:02 [MissParker] campaign site...did you join the forum Ruben?

15:56:30 [MissParker] I thought you would, so you could post the errors/issues with the article you were proofing...

15:58:38 [Ruben20] Hey, you left out the most important question, MissParker: will Jarod ever reconcile with his mother?

15:58:53 [Ruben20] Haven't joined yet. Will do now.

15:59:10 [MissParker] Sorry! I figured I would leave something out...it's because I didn't have a pic of his mother...

15:59:17 [MissParker] Ok, good!

16:04:18 [krisrussel] nice vid :^)

16:04:42 [krisrussel] I wanted to do sort of the same but with clips...

16:06:43 [MissParker] Go ahead - do one!

16:06:53 [MissParker] The more the merrier!

16:08:00 [krisrussel] I will :^)

16:15:15 [MissParker] Ok, we have to discuss bulletins etc

16:15:25 [MissParker] New month, new bulletins!

16:16:00 [krisrussel] yup

16:17:39 [MissParker] So don't forget to post some before the month is up!

16:17:53 [MissParker] Preferably in the first two weeks of the month!

16:18:03 [MissParker] That's not too hard a deadline....

16:18:14 [MissParker] right?

16:18:54 [krisrussel] I'll try, but the bulletinboards are barely available here

16:19:15 [MissParker] Did you look in the libraries?

16:19:46 [MissParker] I know...if I didn't work on campus, it would be hard for me to find boards....

16:20:07 [MissParker] but there is an alternative...since you are not "afraid" of myspace like Quibus and company!

16:20:22 [MissParker] I don't know how effective it is, but I think it is worth trying...

16:20:49 [MissParker] myspace has a classifieds section...you can try that...or you can post as an actual Bulletin on myspace...every month....

16:20:58 [MissParker] what do you think?

16:21:34 [MissParker] Of course the bulletins are only viewed by your friends...but with the classifieds ...you have a chance of reaching the world....

16:23:05 [krisrussel] I never go to the library...

16:23:26 [krisrussel] right... MySpace bulletins :^)

16:23:59 [MissParker] yup!

16:24:09 [MissParker] or the classifieds...

16:24:33 [krisrussel] i'm not afraid of myspace at all :^)

16:25:07 [MissParker] I'm glad to hear it!

16:25:16 [MissParker] Ruben, how about you....are you still awake?

16:29:07 [Ruben20] Wow, almost fell alseep there. Are we talking about bulletins?

16:29:37 [MissParker] lol yes we are Ruben!

16:30:08 [krisrussel] :^)

16:32:54 [Ruben20] Things have been kinda slow when it comes to the bulletins lately, but i will try to get my act together

16:33:50 [MissParker] You *do* have places to post them don't you?

16:34:19 [Ruben20] There aren't many left here. It's a small town.

16:35:11 [MissParker] I was explaining to kris that myspace is an alternative to consider: either the bulletins feature or the classifieds...

16:36:08 [MissParker] I have posted classifieds before...you can repost every 14 days...but they frown on multiple postings of the same thing at the same time in different locations...so only one ad I would say....every 2 weeks...

16:36:12 [Ruben20] I see

16:36:38 [MissParker] In the TV section or the "wanted" section...or personals...

16:40:23 [MissParker] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjUAHxkoy2Q edited vid to add Jarod's mom...

-- End of chat --

15:16:55 [MissParker] It's week 4 for LJ login...that's me...so I'll go do it..brb

15:17:03 [MrZenith] I am barely here, though.

15:27:54 [MissParker] ok...i was already logged in...cookie...hope you enjoy the drive nonetheless Q!

15:28:22 [MissParker] Shall we talk about new addresses for Fox?

15:28:43 [MissParker] Do you guys need 5 min to go scour the webpage to look for one?!

15:29:01 [MissParker] I can give the Sims update in the meantime...

15:31:03 [Ruben20] I have not found anyone beyond the latest ones. On that, has anyone sent any letters? (don't be afraid to say no if you haven't - it's just important that we know) - also, MissParker, have you recived the sase?

15:32:10 [krisrussel] I actually think we should start focussing our actions on scifi...

15:32:23 [MissParker] No SASE yet...I will email Melissa

15:32:25 [MissParker] Sim 1 still enroute....

15:32:53 [Ruben20] Why Sci-fi?

15:33:03 [MissParker] Same for Sim 2...according to the blogs at Fox forum

15:33:30 [MissParker] Because they recently brought back a series to life...right kris?

15:33:46 [krisrussel] indeed MP

15:33:58 [krisrussel] several of them actually...

15:34:14 [krisrussel] some of them only online, but that would be good for us too, right?

15:34:18 [Ruben20] Oh?

15:34:43 [krisrussel] Farscape and Babylon 5 for example

15:35:51 [MissParker] Yes kris...at this point I am willing to consider an online series....as long as it's the original characters of course

15:35:51 [Ruben20] I Babylon 5 back? That's amazing. I never thought that would be revised.

15:36:45 [krisrussel] exactly...

15:37:45 [MissParker] But are there actually any SciFi PTB...or is it just NBC Universal we have to write to?

15:38:17 [krisrussel] I actually have no idea about that... I think there are scifi ptb...

15:38:17 [MissParker] http://www.nbcuni.com/

15:38:53 [MissParker] Email relating to Scifi channel should be sent to : feedback@scifi.com

15:39:10 [Ruben20] Still, we do need an address to Fox when the GGL get's on it's way

15:39:28 [MissParker] Yes we definitely do

15:39:45 [krisrussel] very true Ruben

15:45:43 [MissParker] I think we need someone to make phone calls at this point, in case our last round of letters also come up "empty".

15:46:33 [MissParker] I have drafted a letter to USA Network....because of JD in Burn Notice...should we go ahead and draft a "template" letter to email to Scifi channel now?

15:47:02 [MissParker] sent the letter by email

15:47:07 [krisrussel] ok

15:47:21 [MissParker] Hope I remember to check my hotmail acct for a response next week

15:48:00 [MissParker] Outline: First paragraph: talk about The Pretender, a brief synopsis

15:48:31 [Ruben20] (anyone who'd make a phone call would be reciving a kiss on the feets from a kneeling Ruben with soft, soft lips)

15:48:43 [MissParker] Second paragraph: reason for writing-we want Scifi channel to consider reviving tP as a miniseries, tv movie etc

15:49:20 [krisrussel] lol

15:49:26 [MissParker] I think I will have to blow some of my minutes on a long distance call when I get my brand new phone next week...

15:49:26 [krisrussel] ok

15:49:39 [MissParker] if we don't get any takers....not just for the kiss!

15:49:42 [MissParker]

15:50:21 [MissParker] Third paragraph: Justification for bringing it back? talk about other revived series

15:50:26 [krisrussel]

15:50:52 [MissParker] what else can we say?

15:51:02 [krisrussel] good idea

15:51:16 [krisrussel] I think that's about it I think...

15:52:56 [MissParker] how about adding something about marketing licensed products?

15:53:10 [MissParker] just remembered that from reading something on nbcuni site

15:53:49 [krisrussel] what do you mean by that? cups and t-shirts and stuff like that?

15:54:02 [MissParker] Yeah...I mean there is great potential there...if they do it wisely..

15:54:17 [MissParker] I know lots of fans who want tP stuff...especially the pez!

15:54:35 [krisrussel] DUH!!

15:54:37 [krisrussel]

15:55:32 [krisrussel] was there ever some decent tP merchandise?

15:56:46 [MissParker] none i ever heard of

15:57:06 [MissParker] I'm pretty sure I would have heard of something...even if I did come late to the fandom

15:57:13 [krisrussel] thought so too... lot of potential there

15:57:22 [krisrussel] indeed...

15:58:08 [MissParker] right...so we have the outline...I say we can all draft a letter to Sci-fi and send by email...we can copy to nbcuni by snail mail perhaps...if we have a SASE...?

15:58:30 [krisrussel] ok

15:58:34 [MissParker] Snail mail addy: NBCUNI.COM FEEDBACK

15:58:39 [MissParker] 100 Universal City Plaza

15:58:43 [MissParker] Universal City, CA 91608

15:59:37 [MissParker] Email for general questions: NBCUniSupport@nbcuni.com <NBCUniSupport@nbcuni.com>

16:00:30 [MissParker] I suppose we should introduce ourselves in the first paragraph as well...nothing too long...

16:00:43 [krisrussel] good idea

16:01:40 [MissParker] ok that's about it...next week, we'll report on that...if anyone needs their letter proofed...i'm sure mattali would be happy to volunteer!  Or I can help!

16:01:51 [MissParker] We should try to get them sent soon...

16:01:56 [MissParker] Moving on...

16:02:08 [krisrussel] ok

16:02:13 [MissParker] The campaign site...proofreading...has anyone had a chance to look at that?

16:02:46 [MissParker] I'm thinking I need to assign specific articles for each person to check...what do you all think?

16:03:22 [krisrussel] good idea

16:24:27 [MissParker] Ok...Q & Z (is he here...?)...do you think you will follow through if I assign you an article to read/proof?

16:25:05 [Quibus] I will try to.

16:25:16 [Quibus] he is here, somewhere.

16:25:45 [MrZenith] Z is in the hereness.

16:26:20 [MissParker] lol

16:27:57 [MissParker] ok....i am assigning you both articles...as well as Ruben and kris...will post assignments to you by email...that might be easiest for me...than figuring out where to post for everyone to see!

16:29:31 [MissParker] actually I can give you your assignment now..

16:29:45 [MissParker] Q: Letter Writing: Magazines & Entertainment Publications: http://www.campaign.pretendercentre.com/index.php?page=20

16:30:24 [MissParker] Z: Giant Letter & Red Notebook Projects: http://www.campaign.pretendercentre.com/index.php?page=14

16:30:41 [MissParker] kris: Digital Red Notebook Project : http://www.campaign.pretendercentre.com/index.php?page=29

16:31:29 [MissParker] Ruben: Harpo Hookup: http://www.campaign.pretendercentre.com/index.php?page=11

16:31:43 [MrZenith] Z's article looks good.

16:33:05 [MissParker] ok...you sure!?!

16:33:21 [MissParker] because I will say Z says you may bless it!

16:34:50 [MrZenith] bless away.

16:34:50 [Quibus] can't read all of mine right now but the first two paragraphs look good.

16:35:16 [MissParker] lol ok Z, ok Q  that's cool

16:35:42 [MissParker] just let me know when you're done, Q...you can post a message to me somewhere....

16:36:08 [MissParker] I think that's it for today's chat....any burning issues...?

-- End of chat --

15:08:12 [Ruben20] Let's carry on, shall we

15:08:37 [MissParker] Right...Chelle, I sent you a pm...re the board...some threads that can be converted...and others moved...did you get it yet?

15:08:46 [MissParker] thank you Ruben!

15:09:10 [krisrussel] alright, let's get this party... eeuh... meeting started

15:09:10 [MissParker] I was looking over some threads...

15:09:24 [chells] * chells {checks}

15:09:32 [MissParker] Everyone said farewell to their beloved "spam" threads...

15:09:38 [MissParker] +?

15:09:41 [krisrussel] *couchs*

15:09:57 [MissParker] Everyone read Chelle's message re threads to be deleted?

15:09:59 [krisrussel] weird... my previous message didn't send...

15:10:00 [Quibus] MP, may I be excused, please?

15:10:31 [chells] which board did you PM me on MP? -l-

15:12:15 [MissParker] kris, why are you "couching"?

15:12:18 [MissParker] ok Q

15:12:23 [MissParker] old board Chelle

15:12:27 [MissParker] sorry

15:12:52 [Quibus] gotta go, bye

15:12:56 Quibus exits from this room

15:13:02 [krisrussel] I wanted to try if I still could send messages... like I said, the one before the cough didn't send

15:13:20 [MissParker] ohhh

15:13:30 [chells] bye Q

15:13:52 [MrZenith] Q's getting a new computer.

15:13:59 [chells] The PM I got was about the chat today

15:14:31 [chells] ooo..new toyZ! Yay for Q

15:14:46 [MissParker] yay Q!

15:15:59 [MissParker] umm...ok checking

15:17:06 [krisrussel] great for Q

15:17:29 [MissParker] Oops...ok...maybe it wasn't a pm...maybe it was just another reply to the campaign updates thread...and you saw that...so all's well...

15:19:08 [chells]

15:19:38 [MissParker] sorry I've been trying to do too much! lol

15:19:45 [MissParker]

15:21:52 [chells] So what's on the agenda for today's chat?

15:21:55 [MissParker] so kris, z did you read "board closing" thread?

15:22:33 [MrZenith] Z read it, yes.

15:23:22 [MissParker] the usual Chells, GGL Sim updates, other projects update/report, and of course mb updates

15:23:27 [MissParker] kris?

15:23:40 [MissParker] are you paying attention?

15:23:52 [MissParker] I have news of your baby kris!

15:23:59 [MissParker] Sim 2 is in Azores

15:24:19 [MissParker] I need to email Leanda the "Are you ready?" message...

15:25:15 [MissParker] I think we should post a reply to the "Board closing" thread to acknowledge we have read it...so i just did!

15:26:22 [MrZenith] I did too.

15:26:29 [MissParker] good!

15:26:47 [chells] Also, if you think a thread should be deleted or archived in some kind of history board..offer up the suggestion

15:26:59 [krisrussel] sorry, was in another window

15:27:21 [chells] Any kind of clean up that can be done prior to migrating the board info over will reduce down time too

15:27:31 [krisrussel] no, I didn't read that thread

15:27:51 [chells] * chells declares no c00kie for Kris

15:27:51 [krisrussel] yay, my baby made it

15:28:35 [MrZenith] * MrZenith gives Kris a cookie.

15:28:50 [krisrussel] thx Z

15:29:36 [MrZenith] np.

15:29:42 [MissParker] kris...please don't forget to read the thread, and Z, please remind Q to read it too!

15:30:08 [MrZenith] I will.

15:30:24 [krisrussel] is it on fox or on the mb??

15:30:35 [MissParker] http://www.thepretenderfans.com/mb/index.php?topic=935.0

15:30:38 [chells] It's on the MB

15:30:41 [MissParker] that's it

15:30:44 [MrZenith] the mb.

15:30:56 [MrZenith] beh, I'm slow today.

15:30:59 [krisrussel] will do

15:31:07 [MissParker] lol

15:31:10 [krisrussel] poor Z

15:31:11 [MissParker] ok kris

15:31:16 [chells] your were quick to sneak cookies..so don't give us that

15:31:27 [MissParker] lol

15:31:40 [chells] oh..right..sorry. Ahem.

15:31:50 [MrZenith] I'm always fast when it comes to cookies.

15:31:57 [MissParker] I forgot LJ login, it's Q's turn....will you remind her for me please Z?

15:32:12 [MrZenith] I will.

15:32:29 [MrZenith] I'll remind her of everything said now.

15:32:32 [MissParker] ty

15:32:53 [MissParker] did you remind her to login to Fox forum?

15:32:55 [MissParker]

15:33:15 [MrZenith] ...yes...

15:33:23 [MrZenith] ...of course...

15:33:26 [MrZenith] * MrZenith hides.

15:34:01 [MissParker] lol

15:34:26 [MissParker] * MissParker confiscates all Z's cookies

15:34:41 [chells] Fox Forum? What Fox Forum...  kidding!

15:34:42 [MrZenith] No3s!

15:34:59 [MrZenith] I'll remind her, I promise! give me cookies!

15:35:00 [MissParker] lol

15:35:25 [MissParker] what's your promise worth? I can't trust you....you said you would last time!

15:35:25 [chells] Mr Z, you should refuse to do anything until the c00kies are returned to their rightful owner

15:35:36 [MissParker] Chelle!!!

15:35:37 [chells] that would be me

15:35:52 [MissParker]

15:36:05 [MissParker] You're not helping!!

15:36:07 [MrZenith] ah, good idea, Chelle.

15:36:08 [chells] Hmm?

15:36:16 [MrZenith] * MrZenith goes on a cookie-strike.

15:36:27 [chells] I"ll help for a cookie -devil smilie-

15:36:36 [MrZenith] no cookies, no reminding.

15:36:52 [MissParker] fine! take back your cookies!! thank you for that Chelle!

15:37:06 [MrZenith] Yay, cookiezs!

15:37:09 [MrZenith] -s

15:37:18 [chells] You're most welcome. /me beams at her helpfulness

15:37:23 [MrZenith] now I'll remind her.

15:37:32 [MissParker] lol

15:38:25 [chells] ok, article wise, I've got information up on the GGL-Gemini and the 2 sims that are ongoing

15:38:33 [MrZenith]

15:38:49 [krisrussel]

15:39:05 [MissParker] Chelle, I also posted messages there...today, did you see them?

15:39:09 [MissParker] at the forum...

15:39:36 [MissParker] and I asked Jacci about the "blocks and pimping" because I am not sure what to do...

15:39:49 [MissParker] yay for the info on GGL-Gemini and the Sims btw!

15:40:30 [chells] I've got an article started for Current activites and for ones that are retired/suspended

15:40:51 [chells] * chells goes checks quicklike

15:41:00 [krisrussel] cool

15:41:12 [MissParker] There's a thread about the Jarod's bulletin project at the old mb, which can be made into an article...then deleted...I think it's just the instructions I posted so far...

15:42:38 [chells] Ok, so we need a article for Jarod's bulletin. I'll start a To Do List at current MB

15:42:58 [MissParker] yep, great idea!

15:46:13 [chells] Started. It's in the Campaign Site Re-Org thread

15:46:28 [chells] If you guys think of anything, reply to the with links

15:46:36 [MissParker] ok good

15:48:05 [MissParker] Will see what I can do to add to that

15:48:56 [krisrussel] brb

15:49:20 [chells] While I'm thinking about it..there's a lot of campaign info in a lot of places..

15:49:54 [chells] man is it something to pull that all into one place..like GGL-Gemini article I'm working on..link city

15:50:09 [MissParker] lol

15:50:16 [MissParker] yeah i know what you mean...

15:50:25 [MissParker] you had some ideas to share with us?

15:50:45 [MissParker] rearranging the boards

15:51:15 [chells] Well, in typing up the article...I'm thinking that for each project we have a board...it's partway that way now with the GGL-Gemini boards

15:51:59 [chells] Then we can link to those boards [since the Fox Forum is supposed to go to read only..] in the article for people that want to join, or update the people overseeing the effort

15:52:04 [MissParker] yeah...i kinda like that set up...it sorta keeps things organised

15:52:16 [chells] What do you guys think?

15:52:26 [MissParker] yes, sounds good to me

15:52:31 [MrZenith] I think that would be a good idea.

15:53:32 [MissParker] that reminds me...i will be changing the "migration link" at fox to just plain "campaign.pretendercentre.com" in case it goes readonly before i have more direct links

15:53:35 [krisrussel] back

15:53:52 [MissParker] for the GGL gemini and other projects ... wb kris

15:54:01 [chells] WB Kris

15:54:29 [MrZenith] wb Kris

15:54:52 [krisrussel] yup, sounds good

15:54:56 [krisrussel] thx guys

15:55:04 [chells] So..when I'm porting article over, you all ok with them referncing back to the forum boards

15:55:33 [MrZenith] * MrZenith nods.

15:56:23 [krisrussel] yup

15:56:36 [chells] The To Do List clicky link: http://www.thepretenderfans.com/mb/index.php?topic=938.0

15:56:42 [MissParker] yep!

15:56:45 [chells] Aka the list where you gimme more work

15:56:59 [MissParker] lol indeed!

15:57:23 [MissParker] if you need help, don't hesitate to ask!

15:58:01 [chells] Oh I will. Just need one more beta tester and I will have slave.